怪我。

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試合で怪我をしてしまうのはよくある事である。

それが小さい怪我、大きい怪我の違いはあったにしても、殴ったり蹴ったり叩きつけたりしたりされたりするのが商売。どれだけ鍛えても練習しても100%大丈夫と言う保証はない。

しかし、なるべく100%大丈夫に近づかせるために鍛えて、練習して研究する。

技を受ける受けないは試合中に選手個人が決める事である。例えば、植松なら相手の技を受け切って、受け身でダメージを逃がし、返す機会を伺う。それを得意としているから受ける。まあ、うっかりやられ過ぎて返せないときありますけど(^^ゞ

たとえば、相方の輝だったら相手に攻撃させる間を与えず、技を受ける前に攻撃をする。技を受け切ったとしてもダメージに耐える力ををもっている。

他の選手も試合中に自分の技量に合わせた動きをするよう考えていると思う。

それでも、試合中の判断が遅れたり、迷ったりした時、相手の動きを見て居なかった時など、怪我が起きてしまう事がある。

私は怪我をした時は、怪我をさせた方ではなく、怪我をした方が悪いと教わった。でも↑こう教わったのには厳しい練習とレスラーとしてデビューするまでの合格ラインが高かった事、デビューした時からプロレスラーと胸をはって言える先輩方の自信や誇りがあるからこその教えだと思う。

しかし、実際に怪我をした時はした方もさせた方もどちらも悪い。どちらかだけが悪いなんて事は滅多にない。

まあ、わざと怪我をさせるように危険な事をしたり、怪我する場所を狙ったとしたら話は別。そんな事しちゃいけないし、あって欲しくない。それはプロレスうんぬんの話じゃなくて、一般的にもあっちゃいけない事ですよ。事件じゃん、それじゃ。

怪我をした選手も怪我をさせてしまった選手も心に抱える傷は大きい。

「怪我をした選手」を責めれば怪我をさせてしまった選手が辛い思いをする。

「怪我させてしまった選手」を責めれば怪我をした選手が辛い思いをする。

少なくとも、お互いを信頼した上で試合を引き受け試合に望んだ選手達は相手を責める事はしないし、それを見ているまわりもよくわかっている事。

ファンの方々が片方の選手を責めたり、意見を言うのは仕方がない。怪我をした選手が欠場してしまえば、せっかくチケットを買ってくださっているのに残念だし、思う事もあるのはわかるから。

でも、選手の気持ちをわかるはずの関係者に選手。その場に居なかったり、その時の状況をまったくわからず、怪我をしたと言う事だけを聞いて選手を傷つける事を言ったり書いたりする人もいるようだ。前にも違う出来事で似たような事書いたな。その時も関係者と選手が書いた事で傷ついた人達がいたから。



怪我をした選手も怪我をさせた選手も同じように辛い。

それに試合を見に来てくれた方、結果を聞いたたくさんのファンの方々は心配してるはずだから。

心配がどんどん増え続けてしまう。



自分自身の不注意で怪我をしてしまう

交通事故であるもらい事故的に相手が悪くて怪我をした

練習してもいない事をやって怪我をする、させる。(これはプロならしちゃダメだし)

自分の技量以上の事を無理してやっちゃうとか(練習しよう)

なんにせよ、怪我をしないさせない努力はしよう。プロレスラーだし、危険なお仕事ですから。

私もいままでたくさん怪我してきましたけどね。今も痛いとこありますから。だからこそ気をつけて頑張ります。

いま怪我して欠場してる選手のみんなは早く治してリングに戻ってこようね。

みんな待ってるよ。

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選手のみなさんは私たちにできないことしてるの凄いと思います

アマレスやってましたがケガはたくさんありました
ケガをするのは他人のせいではありません

スポーツやってるかたならわかると思います

ありがとうございます。

大阪で起きたこと
それだけではない
ことと受けとめましたが

正直、双方とも自分が応援している
選手なだけ気持ちを
どう持っていけば良いか
困ってました。
ここ数日なんともいえない
嫌な気持ちが少し晴れたような
気がします。

それではまた

華名選手の場合はおこすべくしておこした事故です。植松選手の考えとは一致しないと思います。自分は風香選手のブログに賛同します。

大阪の女子プロレス祭り楽しかったです!楽しそうに試合してるみなさんを見て元気がでました。楽しい試合でしただから怪我をしてしまつて渋谷さんや華名さんはショックだったとおもいます。

また大阪きてください!本当に楽しいかったです!

おはようございます\(^O^)/


欠場してる選手多いよね(T_T)早くリングでみたいよ。


選手信じてるからさ\(^O^)/信じてるからこれからもみんな応援するよ\(^O^)/

まずは植松選手、3日間お疲れ様でした。

そして両選手をリスペクトしての
正当な評価を記した内容の日記
書いてくれて嬉しいです。
華名、渋谷両選手も救われると思います。

風香のように選手が一方的にしかも現場に居ないのに
ああいった内容の日記書くのは残念で仕方ないです。
(風香がホントに自分の考えで書いていたらの話ですが)
まあロッシー小川が書かせてるのは見え見えですがね。

植松選手、今後も華名、渋谷両選手を
よろしくお願いします。

バチバチ、シューター気取りの口だけ達者な選手が起こした事故ですよ。
私も風香さんのコメントを支持しますね。

大阪での連戦お疲れさまです。
私は、植松選手の考えに近いですが、観戦していて思うことは、プロの凄さを感じました。

片目が開いてない状態、鼻血が出たままであの後も試合をやりきった姿に感動しました。
さすがプロですよ。

早く完治することを祈ってます。

レスラーのみなさん、怪我にはくれぐれも気をつけて頑張ってください。

楽しませてください。

何かよくよく考えたら、やっぱり事故なわけであって、どちらが悪いって
わけではないと思えるようになりました。
ある意味どちらも悪いっていうか。

元々華名選手があまり好きではなかったから叩くような発言してしまった。
だから風香さんを支持とかってのも間違いですね。

軽く荒らしてすみませんでした。

植松のいうとうりですね。::

とにもかくにも、格闘技でありスポーツであって、
 私怨もなしに起きた紛れもなく「事故」ですから・・

OZやアマンドラのような過激な団体もあり、
 あちらはアレで、問題ないのですから・・・

そういう過酷な世界ということですな、?^^
 なんか、最近の華名さんの一連の現状の延長のような気がします。騒いでるのは、

シブちゃんに限らず、体壊して試合に出れない人は幾らでもいるし とうの華名さんだって一時期は怪我で引退を余儀なくされているのだから、そのつらさは本人がわかっているはずですよね、

もし、それでも「ワザと潰した」なんて、そこまで悪い人には見えません華名さんは。
と、私の意見です・・・^^:

今回の一件は全面的に風香を支持します。
彼女はこの日起こった事件だけで書くほど浅はかな人間ではありません。
勇気を出して問題提示した彼女の気持ちをくみとるべきでは。

プロレスの感じ方、見方が人によって受け止め方が違う様に、考えや意見も人それぞれですよね?
それに尚且つプロレス界に関わっている選手や関係者なら、それぞれに意味があり、間違いではないと思います。勿論、植松選手もです。
ただ、この様な問題が起きた時どの様に改善するのかが1番の問題だと思います。レスラーだから怪我が商売と言ってしまえば、それに従う他ないでしょう。しかし、改善策はプロレス界にあるのですか?今迄悲しい事故は沢山ありましたが、問題提示されても、どこかしら蔑ろにしてきてるんじゃないでしょうか?
(それが商売だから・・・)
そんな言葉はファンとして聞きたくありません。
自分で怪我をするならまだ許せても、受ける受けないで怪我を負うのはいたたまれません。
それがプロレス界、それが商売、仕事、と言う言葉で片付けて欲しくはない、と自分は思っています。

本当に業界関係者、選手に言いたいだけなら、
ブログに書く必要ありませんよね。
暗に良識を装って特定選手を批判しているだけにしか思えません。

総合の試合に出る勇気も、キックの試合に出る勇気もないくせに、ハードヒットを気取ってる選手に問題がある。
やりたいなら、女子格闘技の世界に行くべき。
プロレスという曖昧なジャンルに選手は甘えるべきではない。

自分は某選手が書いた勇気ある批判に賛美を贈ります。
なぜなら某選手はこれまで無数にあった怪我のたびに声を上げていた選手ではありません。
これまでと今回は別物のはずです。
正しい物を見て下さい。

もはや引退して行く様な選手が何を言っても気にする事はありません!!
これからも女子プロ業界に残って頑張らなければならない植松選手、渋谷選手、華名選手の活躍に期待してやみません!
頑張ってください!

こんばんは

問題が何にしても、提供する側、リスナー側両方の意見は混同するべきではないのかな?  そのように感じました。

私はプロレスファンですが、このような場合まず選手が何を思い、望んでいるか、を考えます。

とうの渋谷さんが、きっと、このようなファンの対応を望まない気がします。 彼女も元を正せば普通の女の子ではありますがその前にファイターです。 怪我をさせた相手をファンが嫌うのは問題ないと思いますが、公で口撃などされて、要らぬ確執ができ、リングに登る思いに偏重をきたしたりするのはいいことではないと思いますし、そんなことより、鼻を折ってなお戦い抜いたことを見てほいしんじゃないか、そう思います。

 植松さんの相方、輝優優さんも前に鼻を折ってそのうえ、プロテクターをし、試合をし、尚勝つという試合がありましたよね。

その時、こんなことにはならなかったですよね?・・

 大分、華名さんが嫌われているのか、そういう現状に見えます。

私は、植松さんの発言を支持します。

このことで事件だの加害者だのいうならプロレスに関わるもん全体が加害者関係者ですね。
それは違うと思います個人的には。
彼女がやっているのはプロレスであり、あれを否定するというのはプロレスそのものを否定しているのとそう変わらないのではないかと。


誰が負傷した側であり誰が関わった側であっても全く同じように通用する非の打ち所のない正論であり
植松さんのような考えの方々で善後策を講じてくれたらこの業界の未来は明るいなと感じました。

私も植松選手の意見に賛成です。

特に現場にいない関係者・選手が言うのは
どうかと思います。

華名選手ばっかり責めるのは
チヨット可愛そうかなとも思います。

だって大晦日は試合後にテレビが映ってる前で
悔しいからって某選手は
華名選手を何度も張り手して・・・

子供だって見てるので悔しかったら終わってから
仲間を殴ってもいいと思う子供だって出てくると思う。

話それましたが・・・

植松さんのような見ていて
記憶に残る女子プロが理想です。

初めまして。
いつも植松選手のブログを拝見している者です。

今回のことは一プロレスファンとして、どこかすっきりとしないものがあったのですが、植松選手のこの記事を読んで、すごく納得できました。
確かに怪我をさせてしまった選手を非難するよりも、怪我をしてしまった選手を応援するのが一番だと思います。

会場でその試合を見ていなかった人が、そのアクシデントを非難するべきではないし、もしするのであればアクシデント自体ではなく、ファイトスタイルでしょう。

まあ、熱くなる気持ちもわかるんですけどね。
プロレスやプロレスラーが好きだから、ファンはどうしても熱くなってしまう。
植松選手の文章を見なかったら、自分も冷静になれていなかったかもしれません…。

当日、自分は試合を見てないのでどのような展開で怪我をしたのか判りませんが華名選手は相手をリスペクトしてるようには思えません。
自分の我だけを通してるように感じます。
選手の中に華名選手とは戦いたくないと言う人がいたならば
やっぱり問題児な選手だと思います。

植松選手の『私は怪我をした時は、怪我をさせた方ではなく、怪我をした方が悪いと教わった』とありますが今でも、よのような考えなんでしょうか?
ファンとして怖すぎます
また事故は起こると思います。
感覚がマヒしてるんじゃないでしょうか?
怪我したときの保障とかはしっかりしてるでしょうか?
そのようなところからしっかり改善していたほうが良いかと思います。


怪我とは双方に原因があるが今回のケースは違います 全面的に加害者に非があります 自分は華名選手の裏の思想を知っております このブログような個人へ向けての文書は正直がっかりしました 自分は風香ファンではありませんが風香選手のブログに心うたれました

自分は華名選手の試合を面白いと思ったことがありません
口だけ達者の実力の伴わない選手だと見ています
起こるべくしておこった怪我をかばうなどファンをがっかりさせないでください


再びすみません。

わざとやったとかって訳じゃないんだろうが
起こるべくして起きたのならば華名選手に非があるのかな。
要は受けても下手だったかもしれんが、技を繰り出した方も下手というか、
実力に伴った技を使ってない、見栄えがいいだけのプロレスみたいな。
それが事故(怪我)を招いたのかなと。

植松さんの意見もわかるんですけどね。

ただ、この件はどーあれ、華名選手のコメントや発言には何言ってんだこいつみたいなのが多いと思う。

大阪にいた者です。
ケースバイケースですが今回の事故は華名選手が処罰を受けるべきです。

風香選手は自分が怪我した際には相手をかばう発言をされてました。
今回の件がただの事故ではないと判断したのでは?
風香選手のぶれない信念に一ファンとして感銘を受けます。
突然のメッセ失礼しました。

女子プロレスは あまり知らないけど 風香軍の強さを見たような感じです プロレスファンになりました。

華名選手は顔面を狙って蹴って来るらしく他の選手から相当嫌われてると聞いた事ありますが、あの試合も渋谷選手が体勢を落としたから胸を狙ってたのが顔面に入ったとも言われてますが、あえて狙ったんじゃないでしょうか?
見てないから何とも言える立場ではないですが。

植松様。
ブログ拝見しました。
正論だと思います。
今回のケース、双方の選手の経歴や試合を動画等で拝見しましたが、残念ながらプロレスラーとしての経験と技量が未熟であったようです。
プロレスって「受けの美学」だと思います。
どんなプロレススタイルであっても、相手の技を受けて(耐える、避ける、やり過ごす等)、どれだけ試合としてお客様に満足できるものを提供できるかだと思うのです。
ガチンコでやりたいなら、総合格闘技でやればいいんだし。
プロレスの技は、選手双方の技量と信頼関係で成立していると思います。
ハードコアでもデスマッチでも、通常の形式でも、選手双方が相手の技量に合わせて技を出し、受けてます。
植松選手が仰るように、「怪我をした方が悪い」というのは、選手双方が十分にトレーニングをしてキャリアを重ねている場合は当然だと思います。想定外の技であっても、ケガをすることなく受けるのがプロレスラーだと思うからです。
今回は双方の選手が未熟なため、相手の技量を理解することなく技を出してしまった。そして何度も対戦している相手なのに、相手の技を受ける(耐える、避ける、やり過ごす)ことができなかった結果だと思います。
植松選手が指摘しているように、どちらか一方が悪いというのであれば、プロレスではありません。

初めまして。色んなところを巡って、ここに辿り着きました。
今回の事件(←※事故ではないと思います)のポイントは、やはり華名選手がやらかしたことにあると思います。他の選手であれば、ここまで騒がれなかったと思います。

問題なのは、当日の状況よりもむしろこれまでの過程。

去年の9月に井上貴子選手が試合後に、『“暗黙の了解”を守れない選手とは今後係わりたくない』とのコメントを残し、それに対して華名選手は雑誌の自分担当のコラムで『反則行為は一切していない(←※ただし誰の何に対してかなど個人名は出さず)』と反論しています。

私は完全に外部の人間ですので、『“暗黙の了解”』がどう言ったことなのか、また実際そんなものが存在するのかどうかも解らないのですが、仮に実在するとしたらこれはこの時点で大問題ですよね。

華名選手が知らなかったのか教わっていなかったのか、知っていたけど自らの掲げる『女子プロレス改革(←詳細不明)』の為にあえて無視したのか。

↑前者なら指導した人や団体にも責任がありますが、後者なら完全に確信犯です。

更に、普段の華名選手の活動も問題があると思います。オフの時間を利用して会社やお店を経営するのは勝手かも知れませんが、それを理由にチームとしての合同練習などに来れないのは言い訳になりません。
パッションレッド時代にそのことを高橋選手に叱責されると、前述のコラムにて『別の時間に練習してます』(←※やはり個人名などは出さず)。プロレスを舐めてると思ったのは、私なんかよりも現場の方々なのではないでしょうか?

実際の試合でも、全ての試合を観たワケではありませんが、『えっ…そこでマジ蹴り入れるの!?』と思わず引いてしまう場面がよく見られます。


そして今回の事件です。


ここのコメントでも仰ってる方が何人かいましたが、今回の事件は『起こるべくして起きた』と思います。


どうすれば未然に防げるか、などと言う答えはとっくに出てるハズだと思うので、後は現場の方々に動いて戴ければ、そんなに難しい話でもない…


…と、ド素人は思います。

暗黙の了解なんてプロレス界には数多くあるだろう。
それが明かされたところで大問題でもないよ。
要はプロレス内での決めごと、選手同士での決めごとを守れない選手ってこと
じゃないの、華名選手は。
あと先輩選手を敬えないとかさ。
要は自分だけよけりゃいいって、オナニープロレスしてんだろ。
プロレス界のことなんて何一つ考えてない、それが華名というレスラーの現実。

その場にいなくてもその場にいた人から状況を聞いて書いてるかもしれないのにあなたこそふうかさんに状況を聞いてから批判を書いてるのですか?矛盾してますよね?

その場に居なかったり、その時の状況をまったくわからず、怪我をしたと言う事だけを聞いて選手を傷つける事を言ったり書いたりする人もいるようだ。

この部分に激しく憤りを感じます。名前を挙げればいいじゃない。善人を装って特定の選手の批判ですか?自分は風香選手の勇気ある行動が正しいと支持します。植松選手も応援していただけに残念です。以上

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